ZZP Intake

Ouch, $330 plus shipping for a filter on a stick with a disclaimer of likely no gains on a stock setup. Get the tune first.
 
Ouch, $330 plus shipping for a filter on a stick with a disclaimer of likely no gains on a stock setup. Get the tune first.

The no gains thing has me concerned. Why would we add mods when we won't see any gains? Do we have to get a tune for other bolt on's to give us increased power?
 

From ZZP's website:

"ZZP is the first to carry and sell a high flow intake tube for the 2012+ Regal LHU!

Our intake tube is manufactured from aluminum and has CNC cut MAF/MAP pads, laser cut brackets to hold the intake tube and easily relocate your alcohol sensor and finally the mounting hardware.(everything besides tools to install) And when it is complete, it is professionally powdercoated in black wrinkle so it will last forever.

The standard Turbo model has a fuel computer that needs to be relocated for the intake to be installed, this intake kit comes with the necessary bracket to do this. The "GS" model does not need this bracket, that is why the "GS" option is cheaper.

The gains are hard to measure because the Regal adjusts its boost by the amount of airflow the MAF sensor is seeing. So as you add mods the car sees the added airflow and reduces your boost to bring the power back down. So we included a dyno sheet to show the gains. Our o2 Housing/Downpipe package, ZZP/Trifecta tune, and this intake tube bring the average HP and torque gains of 70 whp and 70 ft lbs of torque across the entire pull which is huge power gains! The peak gains of this package were 89 whp and 77 ft lbs over stock!"
 
I bought it more for turbo sound, I already have a tune. However I have a Canadian built 2011 and their bracket doesn't work with my car. ZZP is sending me out a new one so I should have it installed this weekend. I will be dyno tuning my regal (6 speed manual) in a few weeks so I'll be able to post real results. It'll be hard to compare because the only other dyno number I've seen is from trifecta with an auto turbo tuned regal, not exactly an apples to apples comparison.
 
Did you get anymore turbo sound after adding the intake?
 
I bought it more for turbo sound, I already have a tune. However I have a Canadian built 2011 and their bracket doesn't work with my car. ZZP is sending me out a new one so I should have it installed this weekend. I will be dyno tuning my regal (6 speed manual) in a few weeks so I'll be able to post real results. It'll be hard to compare because the only other dyno number I've seen is from trifecta with an auto turbo tuned regal, not exactly an apples to apples comparison.

I will be anxiously waiting for the results. Please also let us know if you can hear the turbo without putting the windows down 🙂
 
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This is just sucking hot air from the engine compartment...? might make some sound (which would be nice!), but I don't think its going to make any power.
 
I bought it more for turbo sound, I already have a tune. However I have a Canadian built 2011 and their bracket doesn't work with my car. ZZP is sending me out a new one so I should have it installed this weekend. I will be dyno tuning my regal (6 speed manual) in a few weeks so I'll be able to post real results. It'll be hard to compare because the only other dyno number I've seen is from trifecta with an auto turbo tuned regal, not exactly an apples to apples comparison.

Did you get a proper BoV? That's the part that actually makes the pssh noise on a turbo (and wastegate if it's an external, although it's different). While deleting the silencer tube from the intake pipe will allow the BPV to be more audible, it's not going to be comparable to an HKS SSQV BOV. Tial QBand BOV's are more muted though, so it's probably not quite what you're looking for.

Or you could convert the OEM BPV to an atmospheric dump instead of the normal recirculating, which you'll definitely be able hear better than just the intake silencer delete.
 
Adding an intake should give a nice audible tone to the turbo. I did this with my 2.3 Mazdaspeed3 and it sounded great. LOVED IT!!!
 
I bought it more for turbo sound, I already have a tune. However I have a Canadian built 2011 and their bracket doesn't work with my car. ZZP is sending me out a new one so I should have it installed this weekend. I will be dyno tuning my regal (6 speed manual) in a few weeks so I'll be able to post real results. It'll be hard to compare because the only other dyno number I've seen is from trifecta with an auto turbo tuned regal, not exactly an apples to apples comparison.

Looking forward to your results. Do you have a way of recording the sound and posting it in the forum or am I asking too much?
 
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I am still waiting for the new bracket to come, don't think it will be here before the weekend so might be until the following weekend when I could get it installed.

Stock, I could barely hear the turbo. Tuned, I could hear it a lot more, but not enough for me. I hear it better with the windows up (no road/wind noise). I will try and take a video on my phone when I get the intake installed but I can't promise the quality of it.

As far as the BOV goes, I wanted one but that would be a bad idea. Since the regal regulates its boost based on the MAF, you'd have air coming in the intake, the regal reads it thru the MAF and decides the boost level, then you release that boost when you let off and the air is vented out, yet that isn't read by the computer. So basically the air originally read never goes into the engine, it'd make the car worse, slower and run rough. A buddy of mine had an atmosphere BOV on his talon, cool loud sound but ran like cr@p! You HAVE to vent it back into the intake, but even then, I don't see it being worth it. I didn't see any bypass system on the regal, when I took the intake off, there was only 3 connections to the intake, 2 sensors and the crankcase vent, no return from a bypass valve. When I spoke to trifecta about getting the tune for an atmosphere vented BOV, they suggested against it. They said get an intake and it should give me enough sound, if not, then maybe a bypass valve vented back into the intake, but they still advised against it.

I will post back results with the intake when I get it installed.
 
Isn't the filter positioned behind the radiator? If so, this is another hot air intake.
 
By the looks of it when I mocked it up, it's a cone filter where the old air box used to be. There's still the intake scoop in the fender tho from the stock intake. Just replacing that big bulky filter with a cone will be beneficial, but for the money vs power gains it's not worth it. I'm buying it for more turbo sound, we'll see when I get it installed.
 
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By the looks of it when I mocked it up, it's a cone filter where the old air box used to be. There's still the intake scoop in the fender tho from the stock intake. Just replacing that big bulky filter with a cone will be beneficial, but for the money vs power gains it's not worth it. I'm buying it for more turbo sound, we'll see when I get it installed.
From the looks of where the filter is, your car will be sucking in more hot air with this intake, than the stock box.
 
While the car is moving, air is flowing thru the engine bay, I don't see the air being that much hotter then stock. Not to mention the smooth intake tubing, no resonators and especially no bulky restrictive box with a square filter, cone filters flow a lot more. Also when air goes thru your turbo which is pretty hot, it becomes negligible, that's where your intercooler comes into play. ZZP is supposedly making a front mount intercooler, so that will help. Getting more air in the intake I think will be better, especially of you plan on doing more extensive mods.

Update on my intake, the bracket won't be delivered until Monday, so I won't be able to install in until next weekend. I'm pretty unhappy with ZZP, told them to overnight the bracket since it was there mistake, frustrating.
 
The air entering the engine bay goes through the radiator... This is why it is so much hotter underhood.
 
While the car is moving, air is flowing thru the engine bay, I don't see the air being that much hotter then stock. Not to mention the smooth intake tubing, no resonators and especially no bulky restrictive box with a square filter, cone filters flow a lot more. Also when air goes thru your turbo which is pretty hot, it becomes negligible, that's where your intercooler comes into play. ZZP is supposedly making a front mount intercooler, so that will help. Getting more air in the intake I think will be better, especially of you plan on doing more extensive mods.

Update on my intake, the bracket won't be delivered until Monday, so I won't be able to install in until next weekend. I'm pretty unhappy with ZZP, told them to overnight the bracket since it was there mistake, frustrating.

Any updates?
 
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